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April 14, 2008

A padded bra for a seven-year-old?

Tesco_bra_469138a_2_3 I was appalled to read today about a brand new Tesco product: a padded, plunge bra for seven-year-olds. Yes, seven. The £4 "bust-booster" is being sold alongside more normal vests for pre-pubescent girls in Tesco stores. Now what is this all about? How can we condemn the early and gratuitous sexualisation of children, particularly girls, and then have our biggest supermarket producing what they term 'pocket-money products' to get little kids to buy bras. I know little girls are interested in everything grown-up - my own girls, five and nearly three, love nothing more than parading round my bedroom in my highest heels, wearing vests as dresses and wiggling their bums, it's a kind of parody of being a grown-up woman. But actually buying a child, or letting them buy themselves, a bra to give them the appearance of breasts on a child's body must be a paedophile's dream. Is Tesco staffed by paedophiles? They've got form on this, I'm sure it was them who sold a child's lap-dancing pole set. To go with that famous Woolworth's Lolita bed-set. And Playboy pencil sets. And a selection of other astoundingly tasteless items. What are these shops trying to do? We need to make a big fuss about this. Kids need to be kids as long as they can - selling them bras at seven doesn't help make that possible!

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Where can I get one

Posted by: | 11 Jun 2008 15:09:31

Gipsy, the bra in the picture (the subject of all this fuss) is clearly labelled by bra-size, not age, and is in a section aimed at 7-14 year olds. Clearly very few, if any, seven year olds will want or need a bra, but a huge number of 14 year olds nowadays will. And a plain white seamless bra seems absolutely ideal for them. Seamless bras are more comfortable in my opinion, and certainly look less noticeable under clothes (ie school shirts) and in order not to be transparent and to provide any support at all, seamless bras do need to have a bit of solidity and structure, which looks like padding. I have huge bosoms, so certainly don't wear a 'padded' bra, but the bra I have on today looks quite similar to the one above.
Why should a girl wear a polo-neck bra? Do you seriously think that if her bra isn't cut like a support garment for a 60-year-old the average 14 year old is going to be more sexually active? I bought my own 15 year old nice Calvin Klein lingerie for her birthday. It looks a bit like the bra above only with a lace back and in different colours. She likes pretty clothes. It's not a crime.

Posted by: Cece | 21 Apr 2008 12:16:31

Susan you are saying that the bra you saw in Tesco's was labelled specifically for a 7 year old and not just next to the 7 to 14 year old clothes?

Cece - I've not nothing against a 12 year old having a bra - I was wearing them (and needed to) by then. It is very natural.

I do have something against a 12 year old wearing a padded bra designed with a plunging cup line (which bra's that are intended to be worn with low cut tops showing cleavage have). Why would they need padding, or a plunging cut?

And if what Susan says is true, I do object to stores marketing bras at 7 year olds.

Posted by: Gipsy | 21 Apr 2008 09:53:35

Also, a seamless bra like this one (much better and less obstrusive under t-shirts etc) offers almost no support unless it is fairly solid with a bit of padding. I am wearing a similar version today. It is quite hideously unsexy in my opinion and worn solely for my comfort!

Posted by: Cece | 21 Apr 2008 09:17:37

Is there supposed to be something wrong with a girl of 12/13/14/15 having breasts? This is such a stupid hyped up story. The bra is sold in bra-sizes, not by age, so it's for whoever fits it. I think the old 'rite of passage' of buying a first bra was absolutely mortifying. Much better to get a bra with the weekly shop. And is anyone seriously saying that a plain white bra is 'too sexy' for a teenager? A little bit of padding helps cover chilly-nipple syndrome, which plenty of young girls (and us older ones) find slightly embarassing.

Posted by: Cece | 21 Apr 2008 09:13:11

This doesn't surprise me; my boyfriend had to hold me back from marching to the manager and complaining in our local tesco a few months ago when I saw bra and tap-pant sets for 7 year olds. Not NEXT TO the girls underwear, but clearly marked and sized for that age group. Sorry for my naivete, but why does a CHILD need a bra? The Tescopoly, as the author notes, have form for exploiting kids- wasn't it them who got caught using Bangladeshi children in sweat shops two years ago?

Posted by: Susan | 19 Apr 2008 23:49:13

I think girls today do hit puberty quite a bit earlier than a generation ago, I know that my cousin started her periods/developed breasts around the age of 10, and looked about 14/15 as a result. The main problem was not with her, she was quite accepting of her new body, but with the unwanted attention of men staring (she was, and is, an exceptionally attractive tall girl) and reacting differently to her, as if she were a nearly woman, not a little ten year old. It was a tricky few years but her parents handled it very well, as it must be quite disconcerting to have such an adult looking child. I was as flat as a pancake at that age and still into horses, pets and my exceptionally innocent rubber collection...

Posted by: mumoftwo | 18 Apr 2008 20:44:28

Ad-Mum: I'm with you on the sympathy for the shelf-stacker front (sounds rather dodgy in this context, non?)
Spell-Girl: I still don't own a bra and I'm 35!!
I would get one if only I had something to put in it...

Posted by: Baggofbones | 18 Apr 2008 18:39:49

God, I didn't get a bra til I was 13 and it was the tiniest little thing. As a mother of a 2-year-old this makes me sad.

Posted by: Spell Girl | 17 Apr 2008 03:21:57

Download Firefox from http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/

Posted by: Gipsy | 16 Apr 2008 20:16:14

dunno, I am at work where I get them anyway(guilty grin)- google them and see if there are free downloads?

Posted by: j | 16 Apr 2008 17:28:45

OK, how do I get netscape/firefox onto my computer?

Posted by: Kieransmum | 16 Apr 2008 17:12:43

Thank you J! I just switched from IE to Firefox and got my middle column back again.

Posted by: Gipsy | 16 Apr 2008 15:41:45

and firefox, sorry meant to say

Posted by: j | 16 Apr 2008 15:25:18

gipsy are you using internet explorer? it has a problem displaying this site at the moment but netscape is OK.

Posted by: j | 16 Apr 2008 15:24:37

sorry to go off topic, but I just wanted to ask - can we have our middle column back again please? Pretty please?

Or is it just me who seems to have lost it...

Posted by: Gipsy | 16 Apr 2008 14:26:10

What kind of 7 year old has a 30 inch back?? I'm 36 and have a 32 inch back. I really don't think they are aimed at 7 year olds.

I think that these bras are probably more likely aimed at the 12-14 market but are bundled together in the kids underwear section. In our Tesco it always looks like a jumble sale.

And yes I wore a padded bra when I was 13 (mid Madonna wannabe phase) so I'm hardly surprised that 23 years later there are still young girls who want to wear them.

Storm in an A cup!

Posted by: Liz | 15 Apr 2008 17:39:01

Kids see all sorts of 'inappropriate' things in supermarkets, from condoms to misshaped organic carrots which accidentally appear to resemble mens genatalia. Just because a bra happens to be next to the kids section doesn't necessarily mean that kids will feel forced to buy them. I think that we're all getting our brassieres in a bit of a twist over this one.

Posted by: Ad-Mum | 15 Apr 2008 15:35:29

Look I'm not normally prudish or up in arms over these things. How many times can Tesco claim to have just had these sorts of things in the kids sections by mistake? The shelf stackers put items where they're told to. It is someone's job to strategise and work out the precise placement of items to get the highest level of sales. It is a science, and taken very seriously by all the stores.

If they weren't thinking about how these bras might be positioned to encourage 7 year olds to buy them, then they are now. And that can only be a good thing.

Posted by: Gipsy | 15 Apr 2008 15:26:57

It's a totally manufactured story. I just feel sorry for the poor pubescent shelf stacker who put the bras next to the 7 year old vests and is probably now blowing his nose with his p45.

Posted by: Ad-Mum | 15 Apr 2008 15:13:52

Loll is right - the Sun photograph clearly shows the label saying 30A. The text of the report says "The £4 “bust-booster” is being sold alongside vests in the seven to eight-year-old age range." No evidence that the actual bra is aimed at seven year olds.

Manufactured outrage again. Though I agree that the Playboy stationery aimed at little girls is pretty unpleasant.

Posted by: Kim | 15 Apr 2008 14:39:57

I was quite amused (and shocked, I have to admit) to see the 9-14 padded bras and bikini tops in New Look the other Saturday. Then I looked up to see the pre-teen area was is right next to the maternity clothes, so one can progress straight from wearing one to the other, one presumes?

Posted by: Maxine | 15 Apr 2008 14:36:42

Oh yes, for me too it would have been heaven to throw one in with the weekly shopping.

We lived in a small town and we went to the only clothes shop in town for my first bra. My over-excited mother raced to the back of the shop (the "lingerie" section, such as it was) while I lingered reluctantly at the front door. To my horror, she then yelled "darling, how about this one?" while brandishing it above her head for all to see.

I was so upset that all the carefully sized bras went into a drawer, and by the time I felt the need to wear them they were too small.

Posted by: The Mommy (or Mummy, depending who's calling) | 15 Apr 2008 14:19:46

...so I now have checked and they apparently sell them by size not age. I don't think it's a sexy bra - it's plain white and no embellishment - we're not talking half-cup red lace here. And I bet the bra pictured is in large cup size to emphasise the point. If it was any other retailer (and I bet M&S do similar in the same size range) no one would give a toss.

I don't like our sexualised culture and I don't particularly want my daughter to grow up in it, but get a sense of perspective. This boils down to middle-class mothers finding an excuse to cast their hands up in horror at chav mums dressing their children inappropriately. I remember going to buy my first bra - I also submitted to being poked around in a cubicle by some stranger with my mother tutting at my chest and frankly I would rather have bought my bras with the week's shopping and not have had such a big deal made about it.

Posted by: Loll | 15 Apr 2008 13:44:14

that's the thing though Loll, 7 year olds aren't pubescent.

I got my first bra at 11 (training bras as they were called at the time), and was pretty well developed by the time I was 12. I didn't want to add any padding to that - it was mortifying enough the attention you got from males at 12 without adding to it.

Posted by: Gipsy | 15 Apr 2008 13:41:13

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