I had a great gig on Saturday morning -- as I was a guest on Saturday Live, 9.00 am on Radio Four presented by Fi Glover.
I have listened to this programme for a long time on and off. It took over from the John Peel, "Home Truths" spot . . . and I listen partly because, in our house (as in millions of others), Radio Four tends to be on at nine on a Saturday. So how could you not?
You can judge how I did yourselves. (You can listen to the whole programme here.) But I have become even more of a convert to this show that I ever was before -- partly, of course, because I was dead flattered to be asked to come on. But there is more to it than that.
First of all, any time you do a Radio Programme of this kind on the BBC, you discover they really have done their homework. Fi -- who did Classical Studies plus Philosophy at Kent -- had actually read quite a lot of what I had written. You don't get that on most commercial stations, I can assure you -- more likely, they will phone you up in advance and say, "Can you tell me all you know about Roman Sex . . . and no, I've not read anything about it ." This is what the Licence Fee is all about (and never mind J Ross's salary, it really is well worth it).
Second, it is great to go and talk about Classics, and other things, on a programme that isn't overtly didactic or dead serious (as Fi said, "Saturday Live" isn't the same as "In Our Time", great as IOT is - I hasten to say). Otherwise, people like me do tend to get pigeonholed into the "this is the austerely serious/good for you" spot. Actually Classics is FUN too.

Wadi Natrun. Was Curzon right?
It was here that Lord (Robert) Curzon came in the 1830s and bought up a load of valuables manuscripts. Part of his excuse for doing so was the slovenly condition of the place. Manuscripts were lying around the floor, and were being used a jar covers, terribly "begrimed". The husband (who knows much more about this that i do) has always been suspicious of this account. For is sounds like a much too convenient alibi for walking off with the monks' prize possessions.
Anyway, on Saturday we went to see the place for ourselves.
Let me say straightway, it was a great -- and instructive -- day. There were plenty of Coptic Egyptian
pilgrims there (the main religious attraction being the cell of St Bishoi). And as always such places make you rethink any simple approach to religious devotion. Here it was nice to see the paraphernalia of modern life conscripted to religious purpose: I watched many people come along, kiss the icons, leave a prayer and
then take a quick photo on their mobile phones. Meanwhile (as you can see in the pictures) the fun the kids were having in the church helped you understand the fine line between holiday, a trip out to the countryside and the piety of pilgrimage.
This much have been true for all sorts of religious experience in the ancient world too. I bet consulting the Delphic oracle was just as mixed an experience.
But another striking feature of the place was that it was filthy.
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Posted by Mary Beard on August 16, 2009 at 07:42 PM | Permalink | Comments (15)