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August 03, 2007

Sex and marriage - things you didn't know about Sharia

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1. Many wives Yes a man can have four wives - but only if he proves he can take care of them all equally. Tunisia outlawed polygamy on the grounds that only Muhammed could satisfy four women. In other Islamic countries the man's financial accounts are scrutinised by the courts before he's allowed to marry manay women.

2. Share and share alike A man must spend an equal number of nights with each wife, but if he marries a virgin he can spend seven consecutive nights with her after the wedding. A non-virgin gets three consecutive nights.

3. Siblings A man can't marry two women who are sisters.

4. Buying a wife Muslim marriage is not valid unless the man has paid a dower to his wife.

5. Virgins Virgins, younger women, educated women and attractive women get higher dowers. The lowest a dower can be is 3 dirhams about 40p. A wife can refuse sex if she hasn't been paid her dower.    

6. Pre-Nup Islamic law does not recognise alimony so a woman can delay receiving the dower until divorce. A man can increase the amount during marriage.

7. The mother-in-law A man must provide his wife with a house away from her in-laws and his other wives, otherwise she can leave him.

8. I divorce you In Saudi Arabia a man can divorce his wife by saying "talaq, talaq, talaq". This can be done by text message, fax, telegram, in person, or over the phone. Other Muslim countries have outlawed this method and the husband must say "talaq" over three consecutive months for the marriage to be over.

9. I take it back A man can revoke the divorce up to three months after the divorce during which time he must maintain her financially.

10. It was his smile Simply by smiling at his wife a man can revoke his divorce three months after he has announced it.

11. Remarriage A finally divorced couple can't remarry each other until the woman has first married someone else, had sex with him and divorced him.

12. Sexually transmitted disease A woman can get a divorce if she proves her husband has a sexually transmitted disease that could endanger her life, elephantiasis, or insanity, or if he mistreats her or fails to fulfil his sexual duties. Women now have the right to divorce by mutual consent and the wife must return her dower.

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I lament the horrible treatment of women, girls and animals in too many Islamic countries. It's abominable and grievous!

Posted by: Brien Comerford | 3 Aug 2007 20:24:05

thanks for these! one or two of them look like they might come in handy...

Posted by: bushra | 7 Aug 2007 10:25:08

Free, Free and free.

The biggest haters of women and children are China, India and the west.

China and India each have killed approximately 50 million innocent girls each over the last 50 years.

As far as the west is concerned just in the US they have killed over 44 million innocent babies.

This genocide of the most weak and innocent is considered permissible. They look down at the South American Maya who would do human sacrifices yet the same people go around mass murdering innocent babies with nary a thought.

1. Men are Free. In the west men are free to approach any women they are interested in.

2. Women are Free. In the west the women are free (Just the price of a nice dinner and wine) and the girl/women goes with you. so the women is free (exception of some professional whores who charge the vast majority are amateurs and don't charge effectively free). The women are free since they don't charge

3. Women are free to kill babies. And if the women become pregnant they are free to abort and kill the babies.

So the western men are Free (to approach any women they like)

The women are free (they don't charge anything)

And the women are free to kill the ensuing babies.

Yet while these people go around killing millions of baby girls and baby boys the media says Islam hates women.

In the west you can have thousands of girlfriends (President Kennedy had more than 1000+). It is your private affair and none of the state's business.

But if a man gets married to more than one women and he has to support 2 or more wives that becomes a criminal offense with the whole media thundering about how evil such a man is.

mass murder freedom while saving lives is oppression. A world upside down where killing is free and saving lives is evil. Protecting women and children is evil while killing millions of innocent babies is good.

rh

Posted by: rh | 7 Aug 2007 18:17:42

R H , AM GLAD TO SEE YOUR COMMENT , CHARITY BEGINS AT HOME WESTER MEDIA , FOCUS ON YOUR OWN BACK YARD.. NO MORE ABORTION , NO MORE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE, NO MORE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE , NO MORE TO ALL EVILS

Posted by: fuad hassan | 6 Feb 2008 07:35:42

RH's comments are interesting for many reasons. The one I want to focus on here is how he defines 'free' for a male, as 'freedom of choice' or 'free will'. However, for a female it seems to be 'free of charge' or 'available for use'. My impression is that the notion of a woman enjoying freedom of choice or free will is quite simply inconceivable. Within the parallel dimension where RH and his ilk exist, she is a chattel, a possession, a child-bearer and - in birth - a costly and unproductive burden.

Posted by: Jerry Hart | 8 Feb 2008 15:06:02

RH and Fuad Hassan,
You actually believe what you say, I am impressed that anyone could be that backward. Good luck to you, and by the way nice outfit.

Posted by: Allen | 8 Feb 2008 15:53:29

Who are you, Fuad Hassan to tell people what they should do? If you want to impose middle-age ideas on the modern country that welcomed you and your family, let me tell you that you'll fail miserably.
If you want to live under Sharia law go to a muslim country and leave people here choose their own way of life.

Posted by: Alana James | 8 Feb 2008 16:39:41

RH and Fuad Hussein:
Yes, Western Men and women have many girlfriends and boyfriends respectively. How do you Muslims live in the Western countries you migrate to? A Chaste Life? What do all the rich Arabs(Muslims) who go to the West on business outings do when step on the Britsih shores? They go and have a f@#$*&g good time with the White girls and others. Then they put on their jubahs and purdahs and sneak back to their countries looking all so holy. Mr. Fuad Hussein, you and many like you are the true creepy hypocrites that walk on this Earth. Just shut up , will you.

Posted by: Krishna | 8 Feb 2008 16:48:26

Blimey.

Posted by: RJ | 8 Feb 2008 16:55:47

Having worked extensively in the middle east and have seen how the so called enlightened muslim faith responds to non muslims and more commonly the women and girls of their faith. They call it cultural differences I call it abuse. A man can commit adultery but the woman is stoned to death. I can only reiterate the words of Mrs T. "When I hear christian church bells ring in mecca then you can have your yowling call to pray in my home town.." So how long will it be before people who dont think they should conform with the law of the land start giving themselves up a set of laws they can use to abuse the laws of this land sponsored by one of our own lunatic fringe preists (dont forget the church tortured more citizens than the law did for being non believers) is there a link here we should learn from?. I have travelled from the middle east to Europe and watched the Burkhas being ripped of and the whiskey flowing down these true believers throats to see what a bunch of hypocrites they are. If Sharia law is so wonderful go to where it is practiced, but wait, wont that mean they wont be able to claim benefits, dole money or scream for human rights which stops them getting their hands cut off!!!!
I have close freinds and associates who are muslims and even they say dont allow that lunatic fringe to put this forward, it is the single biggest problem we have as muslims, archaic traditions operated by bitter twisted old men portraying themselves as followers and leaders of the faith. "Leave them in the stone age where they are happy with their private militant armies"....

Posted by: John N | 8 Feb 2008 17:16:06

The fact that you think sex is evil reveals you as the caveman you are.

Posted by: Dana | 8 Feb 2008 17:58:19

Hmm. Fuad, I truly do wish we'd focus on our own backyard and let the middle east implode on its own. Then we can move in and take your oil! As a western woman, I'd never kill my baby OR put up with the crap Muslim women do.

Posted by: EC | 8 Feb 2008 18:31:16

The above comments are excellent peices of evidence proving why Sharia Law should not be allowed, thank you rh and fuad hassan.

Posted by: Joppy | 8 Feb 2008 18:44:29

The posters here are at least as nuts as half of these rules, if not more. It takes all kinds of crazy, I guess. Imagine insisting an end to prematital sex, because it goes against your values, while insisting that others shouldn't force their values on others...??? Premarital sex, occasional blasphemy, gluttony and indulgence are my hobbies, and I am happy to live in a country where I am free to partake.

Posted by: Dana | 8 Feb 2008 19:40:14

What a cheap shot, the way these points above have been presented is very misleading.
How low can you go ?

Posted by: SA | 8 Feb 2008 20:00:21

It deeply saddens me to read that you consider all western men and women mere animals-now you might reflect about that...

Posted by: ld | 8 Feb 2008 21:10:39

Another pro-Islam propaganda job. The reason we don't know these things about Islam is because they don't exist except in the writers mind. The truth "on the street" is much worse than this.

Posted by: John | 8 Feb 2008 21:18:02

They are far inside the gates Britain - they will push and push until you are in the sea. You didn't fight that terrible fight against Germany in WW2, to be taken over by sheet wearing barbarians from the middle ages. Yours is the greatest nation the planet has ever known. Do not forget it. Do what it takes to eradicate this pestilence before it's too late. Your time is growing nigh.

Posted by: Pete USA | 8 Feb 2008 21:47:56

For heaven's sake who ever has written this, things you did not know abouit sharia law- i am afraid you the writer do not know anything either. at least that is the impression that i get particularly at point four, buying your wife. you should have conducted proper research into the point why the man has to pay the dower. in future before you go on telling other;s what they might not know make sure YOU know the subject matter first.otherwise you won't achieve enlightment or bringing knowledge to others but only more confusion.

Posted by: Naheed G | 8 Feb 2008 22:33:04

rh and Fuad, you need to get your facts straight before you open your mouth or let your fingers type. Rambling on about western women being whores and millions of innocent babies being killed at will simply shows the rest of the world that you are as ethnocentric and ignorant as you accuse them of being, if not more so.

Posted by: NK | 8 Feb 2008 22:42:07

Everybody knows that women have no liberty and individual rights in Islamic countries. They are forced into marriage, are closed up at home, in some countries are not allowed work, cannot even enter alone into a Hotel,cannot walk alone in the street, are not allowed to drive (in Saudi Arabia), will get lapidated for having been raped. These are just a few examples which are common knowledge. In western countries women are free and enjoy the same civil rights as men. This is the big difference between the west and islam, it is a difference which reflects 1000 years of emancipation and progress in the West and Islam being stuck in the middle ages.UK and Europe beware of Islam! No Shari'a in Europe! nb. in Holland it is Arab youth who statistically commit most rape crimes, of course om infidel women...just to show how far islam goes in respecting women.

Posted by: Guido Benedini | 8 Feb 2008 23:00:41

I don't really understand it all, so thats why I like English Law.. it just makes sence. *On a personal note; I beleive everyone in this country SHOULD have to follow English and British Law...

Posted by: K | 9 Feb 2008 00:02:41

Great! That's civilisation for you!

Posted by: Regocijado | 9 Feb 2008 00:04:14

THESE LAWS HAVE BEEN MISINTREPRETED,
FOR EXAMPLE, THE MAN DOESNT BUY HIS WIFE

HE GIVES HER MONEY SO THAT IN THE UNFORSEEN CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THEY HAVE 2 GO THEIR SEPERATE WAYS SHE HAS ENOUGH TO LOOK AFTER HERSELF FOR A DAY OR 2 UNTIL SHE CAN GET HERSELF SORTED .... ITS NOT JUST IN ISLAM, BUT ALSO IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE THE MAN IS OR WAS THE MAIN EARNER AND WOMEN WERE OUT OF WORK LOOKIN AFTER THE CHILDREN, THERFORE DID NOT ENOUGH MONEY OF THEIR OWN - AND FOR THIS REASON THE MAN PROVIDES THE MONEY AT MARRIAGE
IT IS NOT 2 BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE BUT EMERGENCY
ALSO - THE MAN DOES NOT GET IT BACK AT DIVORCE

SO IT IS BEST NOT TO BELIVE EVERYTHING U READ BUT TO GET THE CORRECT INFO FROM A TRUSTED SOURCE BEFORE COMMENTING

***DISAGREEING WITH SHARIAH LAW IS A MATTER OF OPINION
***GETTING ON A HIGH HORSE WHEN THE LAW WILL NOT BE AFFECTING YOU IS UST SILLY, SAD AND MAYBE PPL HAVE 2 MUCH TIME ON THEIR HANDS
***MAKING STATEMENTS ON ISLAM WITH THE UNEDUCATED AND IGNORATE MIND IS JUST NARROW MINDNEDD AND A WHOLE DIFFERENT TOPIC

Posted by: Shamila | 9 Feb 2008 00:25:42

where is proves that "he marries a virgin he can spend seven consecutive nights with her after the wedding. A non-virgin gets three consecutive nights". i never heard of this stuff. please give reference for this statement.

for statement "A man must provide his wife with a house away from her in-laws and his other wives, otherwise she can leave him", where is prove for this statement? it not a 'must'.it is optional; if the man can provide own house, then it is much better.

please provide prove for this statement "Simply by smiling at his wife a man can revoke his divorce three months after he has announced it". from what i know, it is not a 'smile' but 'intercourse'

for "A finally divorced couple can't remarry each other until the woman has first married someone else, had sex with him and divorced him", better wording should be "after three times talaq or divorces"

my general advice: please give more proves for each statement. responsibility of providing correct information comes with freedom of speech

Posted by: nizam | 9 Feb 2008 01:16:28

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