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July 07, 2008

The resurrection predicted in stone

Bess writes: A message on a stone tablet, dated from the decades before Jesus' birth predicts that a messiah would rise from the dead within three days, we report today. A line in the tablet, which is similar in style to the Dead Sea Scrolls mentions a “prince of princes” killed by the government and according to reports today, says “in three days you shall live.”  How this fact is interpreted depends on your viewpoint. Israel Knohl, a professor of Biblical Studies at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem believes the message refers to the death of Simon, a Jewish prince who led a revolt against King Herod. According to Daniel Boyarin, from the University of California some Christians will find this view “shocking”, and “a challenge to the uniqueness of their theology” although others “will be comforted by the idea of it being a traditional part of Judaism.” Ben Witherington, of  the Asbury Theological Seminary in Wilmore, Kentucky, comments: “This stone certainly does not demonstrate that the Gospel Passion Stories are created on the basis of this stone text.”

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heyup Libby.

for a very concise explanation of the original faith source of this message on stone please see the first part of the Documentary "Zeitgeist"
viewable on youtube.
certainly explains covincingly how and why the Abrahamic (and other) religions came into existence.
Love and Peace, Paolo

Posted by: paolo profundo | 7 Jul 2008 14:57:37

The Zeitgeist is PHONY!!!!! The bible is truth. Yes, there are commonalities in a lot of religions - remember Jesus traveled for years and many believed he met with Buddah himself. But Jesus is also the only one to claim to be the son of GOD. Other religious figures did not...not even Muhammed.

Posted by: Karen | 9 Jul 2008 20:52:15

Can this name be linked to David?

Posted by: Diana | 9 Jul 2008 22:50:42

Bess;
Let me guess; If enough people believe this stone is actually a "Prophecy" about Jesus..The next step will be for The Vatican Sales & promotion Department to step in..Find a suitable site to show it off Build the Gift shops The DVD's..Images..Medals...Books and Wala! Another financial "Blessing" for Rome!!

Posted by: Rick Beekman | 10 Jul 2008 23:02:02

Diana,

Maybe it was Simon's middle name?

Karen,

I'm the son of God. Now that I've claimed it and Muhammed didn't, does that now make me correct.

Claiming something doesn't make it true.

Posted by: John | 11 Jul 2008 13:02:18

"...remember Jesus traveled for years and many believed he met with Buddah himself." Indeed, Karen? The Buddha had been dead for 500 years by the time Jesus lived....

Posted by: Uncletoby | 12 Jul 2008 12:03:17

John;
Jesus is The Son of God. Even Peter knew it (Matthew 16 v 13 to 16). "....Whom do men say that I the son of man am? and they said some say that thou are John the Baptist; Some Elijah some Jeremiah or one of the prophets. He (Jesus) saith unto them..But whom do you say I am? And Simon Peter answered and said; Thou art the Christ the son of the living God. Jesus said..Blessed art thou Simon Barjona; For flesh and Blood hath not revealed it unto thee..but My Father which is in Heaven."

Example #2...After Apostle Thomas put his finger in the Nailprints in Jesus' hands after Jesus Resurrected He stated; "My Lord And My God" (John 20 v 28). Jesus is God Almighty John. See if The Koran speaks of Muhammed as God. Or was He crucified Died and Resurrected?
Mohammed is still in his grave John...

Posted by: Rick Beekman | 13 Jul 2008 23:28:39

Well if Peter and John knew it, I guess I was wrong. Do you happen to know my nearest church so I can go and sign up for this god malarkey? I do believe that you've proven christianity to be true.

Do you honestly have no idea how your idea of evidence and reason sounds in the year 2008?

I'll even answer for you.

John, The Lord said "i am the lord" vs 69, book of oral, then he said "have I not created this for you?" bk blah vs blah, so you see, John, he is the lord and he made himself known to us through men.

He sent his only son to die for our sins John, and if you don't believe it, you can burn baby burn, disco inferno. For did he not say "thoust that findeth not the faith but instead look at evidence and realise I'm man made, shall surely get a tan that not even st.tropez tanningeth lotioneth can competeh with" So you see, John, he loves you and wants you to be with him to continue praising his brilliance for eternity with me.

The thing is, Rik, I know the first 10 years will just be the best, but I get restless on earth, I like to do stuff. After say 20/30 years of waking up and telling him he's brilliant, I'd start to get itchy feet, then after say, 2/300 years of doing it, I think I'd be going a bit stir crazy, but what about those poor early homo sapiens? They've had 100/200,000 years of it all ready.

I suppose the best era to live in would be right before Jesus returns...Sometime in the next 50 years (according to most of your compatriots), that way, I'd maybe only have 5-10 years of that inanity before we came down to fight the UN to decide who wins between good and evil - even though we know who wins already. Yeah - can't have a god without a war. The creator who normally just says things to make them happen (let there be light) needs to send Jesus down on a cloud to fight.

If i didn't like it and wanted to leave, what are my options?

Posted by: John | 14 Jul 2008 19:07:29

John;
This is what Apostle Paul stated about folks like You; Titus 1 v 15 & 16; "Unto the pure all things are pure; but unto them that are defiled and unbeleiving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled. They profess tht they know God; but in works they deny him..being abomnable and disobedient and unto every work reprobate."

Paul Tells us Straight..like it really is.

Posted by: Rick Beekman | 16 Jul 2008 21:33:49

Is that from the same book that constantine put together?

This is what the Amused John said about people like you; Times Online - WBLG: The Resurresction predicted in stone, "Anyone who lacks the ability to think for themselves or weigh up the merits of questions independently, but instead chooses to hide behind a Roman book for rent-a-quote answers, is severely lacking in cognitive development"

The difference between us, Rik, is that "people like me" wish you no harm. All I'd like is for you to think about some of the questions I pose or I'd really like for you to question your beliefs independently, especially your flippant attitude towards people deserving to burn for eternity for questioning the existence of something without any evidence.

Instead, Rik, you currently don't have to think at all because you've got a book to answer for you. someone doesn't believe - passage in the bible. Someone thinks it's not a nice book for of godly glory - passage in the bible.

Posted by: John | 17 Jul 2008 09:57:24

John;
There is a very simple solution to our disagreements. Don't attack the Bible or tell me it's all Myths etc...etc...etc. Because John you are not of God Nor do you have any knowledge of his Word And in fact you are an Unbeleiver. Why even be on this Blog since it refers to Religion?? Or are you telling us You are "Religious"?

You and others are wasting your time trying to refute what The Word of God Says; Billions before you did'nt beleivw it either simply because it's easier to say "I don't Believe it and keep your Pride intact.

Maybe they'll start a Blog about Unbeleivers scoffers and religious indifference..and You'll fit right in!!

Posted by: Rick Beekman | 19 Jul 2008 18:58:14

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  • Libby Purves is a Times columnist, novelist and Radio 4 broadcaster. Her interest in the glories, inspirations and eccentricities of world religions and cultural traditions was fuelled by an upbringing in Bangkok, Israel, Africa, France and a series of convent schools.

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