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Friday, July 18, 2008

Dwain Chambers banned from Beijing - is this the right decision?

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Mr Justice Mackay today decided that Dwain Chambers should not compete at the Beijing Olympics next month, turning down the sprinter's appeal for an injunction against the BOA bylaw banning drugs offenders from appearing at the Games.

The decision could bring about the end of Chambers' athletics career. But is is the right one? Hasn't Chambers served his time in accordance with the rules on drug cheats?

No one can be left in any doubt that Chambers is Great Britain's best 100m runner following his emphatic victory at the trials on Saturday, so has the team just lost one of its best hopes of a gold medal?

Many say that Chambers is remorseful and has served his time, but that doesn't hide the fact he lied, cheated, defrauded and ultimately devalued the sport. He also denied his compatriots medals.

Others argue that in sports such as football, players like Jaap Stam, once of Manchester United, and Edgar Davids have returned from drug bans to win major trophies, so why should Chambers be prevented from competing at the Olympics?

What do you think? Vote now and leave your comments below.

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The Olympics have sunk to lower and lower depths that the ideals and principles of Baron Pierre de Coubertin are no longer remembered, let alone respected. Today, the Olympics is naked greed over money, both from "promoters" and athletes. Too many "athletes" such as Crawford demonstrate they are ready to drug themselves and cheat others in order to achieve the status that will reward them with endorsements, prize money, and money to simply "appear".

The days of the true Olympic Spirit are over and done with. Best to abandon them now than let the principles of society be destroyed bit by bit by the likes of Chambers.

Posted by: Bob Evans | 26 Jul 2008 02:18:00

So glad Chambers appeal turned down. Personally speaking, having been a hard training athlete for over 30 years I would not race that guy in even a village green 100 metres race. Once you play the cheat card you have shown what you are and forfeited any rights to Olympics ( I would ban from all major competitions ). We have had a skinful of these drug cheats for last 20 years , ruining athletics for athletes and spectators alike, and we have to adopt a zero-tolerance approach. By the way Mr Chambers ...... athletics is not a "trade" ..... it was a pure clean sport before the likes of youself ruined it.

Posted by: George | 25 Jul 2008 10:31:50

Whether he has served his time or not is of no importance what is important is that www.timesonline.co.uk please take the picture of him off the newspaper as it affects my concentration whilst searching other articles. (I voted to let him run by the way as the rules currently show double standards both nationally and internationally)

Posted by: Matthew Ffoooks | 24 Jul 2008 02:52:10

I am so happy Chambers didnt win his case. He is a disgrace to British sports like any other drugs cheat. The fact of the matter is this by law banner competition from the olympics has been in place for 16yrs and so was up to him not to be so stupid. People argue we are one on few countries that do this, in my mind that means we are ahead of the curve. The olympics is the pinicle of athletics and drugs cheats tarnish its good name, just look at the Tour De France. Plus it hasnt stopped him competion at a professional level, just the olympics which they dont get paid for.

Posted by: Alan Thornber | 23 Jul 2008 17:44:01

Several people have said that he has "served his time".
No he hasn't.
As far as I am aware, the sentence was a 2 year ban from competition, AND a lifetime ban from OLYMPIC Competition.
Case over.

Posted by: John Lovell | 23 Jul 2008 10:55:12

Several people have said that he has "served his time".
No he hasn't.
As far as I am aware, the sentence was a 2 year ban from competition, AND a lifetime ban from OLYMPIC Competition.
Case over.

Posted by: John Lovell | 23 Jul 2008 10:54:13

As the Olympic Games are run under the auspices of the International Olympic Committee there should be just one set of rules for all participants, particularly in regard to drug offences, regardless of which country they represent. As always the British have their own set of rules, completely out of step with the rest of the world, and arrogantly consider that they are the only ones who know how to do anything. The result of this is an ever-increasing lack of competitiveness in just about every sphere.
I can understand the attitude of top British athletes who have reached the heights of success without the use of drugs. They feel that drug cheats demean their own efforts and successes. But with respect this isn't about them. Drug cheats should be caught and punished, but the punishment should be universal and not open to interpretation by individual governing bodies. While this situation persists there is always room for any country who values results above principle to apply the mandatory minimum punishment while secretly supporting the actions of the offender and giving him/her support which other nations' athletes don't receive.
I only ask for fairness in the treatment of offenders, and the only way this can be acheived is by setting one set of rules and punishments for everyone.

Posted by: mike snell | 22 Jul 2008 12:46:43

The 100 Metres sprint is the most high profile event - however ALL the events should be treated equally. I was shocked to find out that growth stimulants actually provoke unnatural growth in the forehead - see the picture of Dwain or similar body builders which must be a very high price to pay regardless of the outcome. I think what is really important is the sad conundrum that all nations are aware of cheating required to be competitive, whilst needing to win at the same time for national prestige...
In a constant battle of new drugs versus new detection methods this is a problem that isn't going to go away. This completely ruins the Olympics and what it stands (stood) for. Obviously all the athletes know from an early age who does, who doesn't and it's sad to see that some/many competitors view drug enhancements as necessary in order to win. The only extreme solutions I can offer are to have athletes from all countries training together in total and utter isolation for 10 years with no intereference from the outside world (which is a little extreme) OR to have sophisticated internal blood analysers which test and record information about the state of an athlete's blood every second of the day in different parts of their bodies to ensure no unfair advantages are received. The analysers would need to be tamper proof...you may think this solution is shocking and extreme - it is - but then so is the problem...

Posted by: Shocked | 22 Jul 2008 10:24:50

As an athlete I totally agree with the court's decision on the Chambers case. At the end of the day, he knew the consequences of his actions and should pay the price.

What about the clean athletes who are tarnished by the brush of doping every time someone like Chambers is caught? I think the zero tolerance policy is totally correct.

As for restraint of trade etc. and the comment that his life is not in tatters, he's only banned from the Olympics. Although the Games are pinnacle of athletic competition, they are by no means the be all and end all. After all, Chambers is presumably on World Class funding, or a least will be now he has achieved the relevant performance criteria at GB trials.

If he carries on he will no doubt compete at the Worlds next year as well as at all the other meets, such as the Euros and world cups. If he performs he will back on UKSport funding.

However, in some ways I hope he does retire as he has brought the sport into disrepute and this court case surely highlights his lack of remorse? In many other walks of life gross misconduct results in a lifetime ban. Just look at doctors who can have their medical licencse revoked and barristers who cannot practice if they are convicted of any criminal offence or even become bankrupt.

Posted by: Athlete X | 21 Jul 2008 16:10:00

Can anyone remember who Dwaine beat when he was on performance enhancing drugs?

Posted by: Marcus Green | 21 Jul 2008 12:55:57

I am one of the few that thinks that the decision to ban Dwain Chambers is wrong. If it is a fact that he has ceased taking drugs to enhance his performance. Maybe we should let him compete, purely as an encouragement and incentive to others that may be currently using drugs, to help them understand that if they too cease, there is not a life ban awaiting them but a way forwards.

Posted by: Mike Latham | 21 Jul 2008 10:02:54

We need to be graceful in our comments and forgiven in our attitude. If we say we have never broken a law, never deceived or committed a selfish act, we deceive ourselves. Chambers is no different to the majority of us. Only those who have never lied, wronged anyone, broken a rule, have the right to judge this mans character. Mr Chambers must be forgiven and be given a second chance.
The BOA needs to review it's laws and make room for grace, forgiveness and mercy for athletes who are caught cheating and comply to a strict rehabilitation programme.

Posted by: Lenny | 20 Jul 2008 16:54:26

Why find him guilty of cheating, and give him a two year ban, only to stop him competing when he has done his time!
The punishment was a farce, what the sports committee meant was banned for life, but they didn't have the bottle to issue that ban!

Instead they ban him from competing in the Olympics not because of any drug enhanced performance, but because he has dared to put the effort in to remain one of the best sportsmen in this country.

So now who is cheating?
Now what is the message that is being given out?
We can ban you for two years, but if you don't slip away quietly we will make sure you don't compete at the highest levels again!

The sporting world must be so proud!

Posted by: Simon | 20 Jul 2008 14:27:49

The question of whether the BOA by-law is illegal hasn't been decided. The court decided that Chambers couldn't have an injunction in the meantime, because he'd left his claim to the last minute.

This is a stupid poll.

Posted by: Slabber | 20 Jul 2008 14:15:03

Yet again a demonstration of how poorly administered most UK sporting bodies are. Double standards and example setting will not help Britain win medals in Beijing... Dwayne Chambers has paid the price for his errors and ambitions, if he is now clean let him run! Perhaps he should retire and join Linford Christie as a coach for the 2012 hopefuls????? At least in that position he could help the BOA and return some of the trust, support and faith they have shown in him...

Posted by: Ben Morgan | 20 Jul 2008 08:35:18

What hypocricy! The British 400 metres runner Christine Ohuruogo, who digracefully failed to take three straight mandatory drug tests, is allowed to participate in the Olympics, but not Dwain Chambers.

Posted by: Tom | 19 Jul 2008 15:00:18

Very poor research question: Both a yes and no answer can be misinterpreted as the same when using the passive voice in this context. Dwain Chambers has been punished disproportionately according to his crime. He was destined never to receive a positive verdict simply because it would cause a precedent for further cases.If he's clean then let him run!

Posted by: Alex Palmer | 19 Jul 2008 13:42:28

Chambers has shown breathtaking arogance and no shame for his crime in sport. In fact he should be banned from all competitions and not just the olympics!

Posted by: tim egerton | 19 Jul 2008 13:21:44

If he had been allowed to join the team, the message received by younger athletes would be:
Go ahead, use drugs, and if you get caught, at worst you'll only miss one olympics.
Chambers knew the rules, nobody held a gun to his head. He'll continue to make money on the circuit so I for one don't feel the slightest sorrow for him.

Posted by: Richard | 19 Jul 2008 11:54:59

You can see both sides of the argument.But again there are double standards.Why was Linford Christie allowed to compete in the olympics after he was found to have been cheating?Also he has been allowed to mentor athletes and be involved in the 2012 preperations.Whats good for 1 must be good for the other.A poor showing by the BOA it must be said.

Posted by: ricky | 19 Jul 2008 09:49:43

the all remaining sprinters are all rubbish, i wish the american and jamaican sprinters blow them away in early rounds...goodluck dwain

Posted by: rick muller | 19 Jul 2008 09:47:03

Right decision! He knew the consequences of his actions should he have been caught, in fact he knew the substances that he was taking were meant to be untraceable. he was obviously willing to take the chance, no good crying now. He reaped the benefits of taking the drugs just look at his physique, which, incidently would still give him an unfair advantage, his luck ran out when he got caught!! makes you wonder though how many other athletes are taking banned substances that are currently 'untraceable'. the biggest shame is that some of the future young athletes looking to make it big will go down the Chambers route! All the sports governing bodies worldwide need a clear cut rule stating that drug cheats will not be allowed to compete EVER again. Its also a shame that some athletes going to the games have had a drugs ban for cheating but are allowed to compete because the laws governing that countrys sport allow them to do so after serving their ban!. So its understandable why he decided to fight for the chance to compete!!
However, still the right decision to not let him go in my opinion

Posted by: K Heap | 19 Jul 2008 09:11:55

Dwain did wrong, most of us believe pretty mch all sports stars have at least at some point. He was caught served and sentence and has a very high profile attempt to come back. He has given us entertainment and is one of very few stars. He needs a come back and the sport needs him. The ethics of a return are far more complex, bt I for one feel the ban he served was reasonable a clear message and now want to see him race.

Posted by: david palmer | 19 Jul 2008 09:09:37

If the world of sport is serious about getting rid of drugs then a zero tolerance attitude must prevail. For far too many years drug cheats have been getting away with it and in effect stealing money from their competitors. All drug cheats should be treated like criminals and accused of theft and banned for life, and serve them right.
Sporting bodies worldwide must take a strong stance on this otherwise the problem will never go away.

Posted by: Reg Tripp | 19 Jul 2008 08:28:16

A Agne and others, are you saying drug cheat medal prospects should be allowed to compete, and less talented drug cheats should be banned?
The by-law was in place when he cheated, open and shut case.

Posted by: Jack | 19 Jul 2008 06:43:26

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