Manchester United fans – where in the world are you?
With Sir Alex Ferguson’s side doing their latest bit of PR in Cape Town, we wondered: exactly where do Manchester United’s fans come from?
They boast that they have the biggest following on the planet but is this true? Certainly, shirt sales in Asia appear to back up the theory. And supporters turned up in their droves to have a kickabout with Rio Ferdinand during his recent charity trip to Nigeria.
Everybody’s heard the cruel taunts about United fans not coming from Manchester – now’s your turn to hit back.
Take part in our simple poll and let us know in the comment box below where in the world you are from.









Football is rooted in working class traditions. In the early part of the 20th century most English people worked on Saturday morning and finished at around midday. This gave them a chance to get some lunch and then go to the game, which traditionally kicked off at three in the afternoon. At a time without extensive transport and no Sky on in the local boozer this would mean your local club. That's why many football fans are a little disdainful of those who choose to support clubs they have no apparent root with. Added to this is the over-riding sense that some people choose clubs who tend to be successful. Football is about losing as much as it is about winning, as I often remind my nephews (both under ten). They support Fulham. And they live there.
Posted by: Kev | July 29, 2008 at 08:14 AM
"It's true United fans don't come from manchester, ive live in Hale for 12 years and rarely see a united fan. It's a sea of blue round our way.Stockport is also blue sometimes the traffic jams on the way to the match stretch all the way to Eastlands, this never happens when united are at home"
I suppose that will be because they are all of to support their local team Stockport County will it? The posting above just shows how blinded some people get in their attempts to denigrate their rivals.
The fact is that we now live in a world where people no longer stay where they were born, and have access to sport and other forms of entertainment on a global level. No-one says that an English person should not go to a Hollywood blockbuster film, but only watch a locally produced one, or that you should only read books by a local author, or shun an impressionist exhibition, because the majority of the artists are not local - so why is there this stupid notion that you should only be allowed to follow your local team? Why, if you have the misfortune to be born somewhere where there are no decent teams (or, in the case of Cornwall, for example, even any league teams) are you to be condemned by some accident of birth to not being allowed to support a team that plays good, exciting football? Why should you have to settle for mediocrity? Further, what happens if, as I did you move around the country - I was born in East Anglia, grew up in the West Country, was at Uni in the North East and now live in London. I settled on Utd in 1969 - 70, because my brother did. I go to every game (although I do own up to missing the game in Saudi Arabia last winter), home, away and in Europe. I do a 400 mile round trip to every home game, and relish (not) the 6am starts when we have a lunch time kick-off, or the 2.30am returns after a midweek match (and am really looking forward to Newcastle away at 8pm on a midweek day!) Does the fact that I do not come from Manchester make me less of a fan? - of course it doesn't. It would, in fact, be a damned sight easier to follow my local team - but you can't switch allegiance once you have made that choice.
I am fortunate - I can go to games. However, it makes me angry to see people sneer at other fans if they don't go. Some people cannot afford to, or have committments that may make it impossible. Again - is someone less of a film buff because they choose to watch Film4 rather than go to the cinema?
Whilst I am passionate about my club, think nothing beats the atmosphere of a live game and enjoy the terrace chants about other teams, at times, we do all need to sit back, think, and grow up!
Posted by: DL | July 27, 2008 at 01:31 PM
I am from stretford, a mile down the road from Old Trafford. United are lucky to have such global appeal and a huge international fanbase, but it is still the local fans who turn up week in and week out to support their team. I am sick of the stereotype that Old Trafford is full of cockneys and foreign fans, its true there are a few, but as noted before this is due to United's success and appeal.
Posted by: Alex | July 26, 2008 at 11:15 PM
I am a neutral fan from the USA. I know all about United's history, the proud tradition of playing beautiful, winning, attacking football. The legends of Matt Busby, The Busby Babes and the modern legend of Alex Ferguson.
All I know about Liverpool is that they haven't won the league since the back-pass was outlawed and ruined their plan of world domination through dull football (the Liverpool way).
I know Liverpool disgraced England with their fans antics and got the English teams banned from Europe. Despite being American I can see why Man U are adored around the world and Liverpool are just nowhere near that level.
Posted by: Andrew | July 26, 2008 at 10:30 PM
i'm 35 and remember my dad and me counting the number of city and utd shirts in manchester each time we went in to town in my childhood. there was usually a few more blue than red, but normally pretty equal.
these days it's different. you see more utd shirts. stands to reason - people, especially kids, are proud of wearing the replica top of a team that wins things (and before you reds start up about having 'pride' in your club, i say that having had a season ticket for 18 of the last 20 seasons). it also helps when your shirt is a decent style, made by nike! but, of course, after two decades of success for utd, during which time city have been down in third tier, there's going to have been a shift in the balance.
Posted by: Dave | July 26, 2008 at 09:20 PM
four times more united fans in manchester than city?! ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Posted by: Mike | July 26, 2008 at 09:07 PM
Im a Man United fan from Manchester and there alot more United fans in Manchster than city fans. the reason people like to think all of our supporters are out of town reds is because we have supporters from all over aswell as alot in Manchester id say its 70/30 to United fans in Manchester. Manchester Is Red
Posted by: Tom | July 26, 2008 at 08:33 PM
I am a Londoner and a Manchester United fan since 1963. During the 60's they played the most attractive football and attracted a huge fan base across London. After United won the European Cup in 68 half of my school were probably supporters, they had become a national club team. Moving on to 1999 at the Nou Camp I was surrounded by United supporters from Namibia, Scotland, Canada, Home Counties, London and believe it or not Manchester. It stuck me then that United were now the International club team. We had a great time that night and will continue to have a great time supporting our club Manchester United. No carping from supporters of a different club is going to make any difference. The club is going to continue producing great teams and playing great football. If any team can eventually compete with United in terms of success and fans good luck to them, I will continue to support my team.
Posted by: David Collins | July 26, 2008 at 06:18 PM
I live in the US and I can tell you that as soon as someone tells me that they're a United fan I lose all respect for them because as I have seen over the years is that if you ask them if they became a fan before or after 26 May 1999 they will 9 times out of 10 tell you after. None of them know about the history, about the tradition about the city, about the culture. I know nothing about it either because I have been a Liverpool fan since I was eight years old (1998). The main reason I watched them most and ended up falling in love with them is because of Owen, however I DO know about Shankly, I DO know about Paisley, I DO know about Billy Lidel and his commitment to the club. I know that Liverpool Football CLub is an institution for the people. There is no other reason why Anfield shakes all of Europe. It is the bond between the fans and the club. If Manchester United fell from glory into mid table mediocrity for years you would see how those American ManU scums would drop their Ronaldo shirts and pick up their Walcott shirts. Its LOYALTY that you have to look at, not geography. How can you American ManU fans know so little about a club you say you love?
Posted by: Edgar | July 26, 2008 at 03:31 PM
Im from Salford, yes Mancester has alot of non local fans but the support in the north is huge, every pub is packed on gameday, the stadium is always a sell out and everyone shows full support. If people from outside want to support United thats great, it just cements our position as the number one club in the world!
Posted by: Paul | July 26, 2008 at 11:15 AM
Although I was born in Islington, N. London, I was brought up in Malta and I've followed Man Utd since the age of 10. I am now 51 and I certainly would not call myself a glory hunter. In my younger days when D1 matches where not shown live, on a Saturday afternoon my friends and I would be all sitting around a table listening to BBC world service via BFBS, listening for results and the last 20-25 mins of the chosen game live. Not all of us where Man Utd fans. You had Arsenal, Liverpool, Forest and so on. All my four sons follow United as well, but they followed my passion.
Posted by: RAY GATT | July 26, 2008 at 10:27 AM
Israel. Since I was a child in the early 70's. fly few times a year. Been in Barcelona, Moscow etc.
"United is Life, all the rest mere details."
Posted by: ron | July 26, 2008 at 09:18 AM
Live Liverpool, because it is a great city (despite traditional rivalry between the cities), but hold United season ticket because they play the best football on the planet, with or without Ronaldo.
Posted by: philip | July 26, 2008 at 08:20 AM
I've watched United since 1945.
Went to every game when they won the FA cup in 1948.
They played home games at Maine road in those days.
Saw them score 9 goals against Anderlecht in pouring rain at Maine road in the European cup.
Saw Bobby Charlton when he only played in the reserves.
I could go on and on.
I live in Michigan U.S.A, since 1968
I still watch them on FSC here.
Posted by: Stephen Griffin | July 26, 2008 at 05:45 AM
If you support a team because they are good then you are a glory hunter. simple.
Posted by: | July 25, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Bit of a pointless poll this, but I am loving reading the comments of Reds all the world. Great to see so much passion for our club in places like Burma and KL.
I was born in Blackley, North Manchester in 1973. I went to my first game when I was 3, my Dad took me to watch United V Chelsea at OT.
I've been a dedicated fan ever since and say 100% that there are more United fans in Manchester than there are City fans. Fact!!
Red Army...
Posted by: Ged Burton | July 25, 2008 at 06:12 PM
Manchester United has a huge fan base in Manchester. More people support Man Utd in Manchester then they do City. The success of Man Utd over the years has made them a super club which of course attracts supporters from all over the world. The fact the world is a bigger place than Manchester obviously means that there are going to be more supporters of Utd from outside Manchester than there are who live there.
Posted by: RIchard | July 25, 2008 at 03:29 PM
was born near old trafford but live in canada watch EVERY GAME OFMANCHESTER UNITED they are number one.
Posted by: mike percy | July 25, 2008 at 01:42 PM
Calling foreign fans glory hunters is very unfair. I have supported Manchester United since I was 9 years old. Everyone else around me supported either Chelsea or Liverpool. And anyway if the same poll is carried out for other clubs you would get similar results.
Posted by: Juv | July 25, 2008 at 01:39 PM
Hi,
I am from Gibraltar and I have been a Life long fan of Manchester United. They are simply the best team in the world and i tend to go at lest 3 times a season to Manchester to watch them play. Scholes a world class player.
Posted by: Karel MAdeira | July 25, 2008 at 01:23 PM
***I live in London and have supported Man U since 1968. My Dad hates football so we never went. I went to school outside Manchester where I got grief from Citeh fans and Salford reds alike, so it comes with the territory. Funny thing is, over the last five years or so, I know more London based Liverpool fans than United fans. All of these of course were glory hunters in the 1980s....when most of them were in their teens/twenties! And in London, the number of Arsenal fans from the home counties or Spurs/Chelsea fans from South East London keeps growing....What's the difference***
I've pasted that from a so called Manchester United "fan" who posted in this article. It makes me laugh, because he calls his team "Man U" which is incredible disrespectful and relates to a former Manchester United player rotting in his grave... but hey ho, glory supporter, wouldn't know that would you?
Posted by: Josh | July 25, 2008 at 11:32 AM
I was born in london, and I hate arsenal, hate chelsea, hate tottenham, don't give a damn about fulham, west ham and all those other london teams (okay, I can say I once had a little love for millwall, I am a Lewisham lad), but i mean, I started watching football when United were the ONLY team in England (1998). Nuff Said!
Posted by: Olumide | July 25, 2008 at 11:29 AM
Why do foreign fans are labelled as glory hunter? What is that supposed to mean?What about people like me(Malaysian and supports Manchester City.)32 years,won nothing.where's the glory?
Posted by: klblue | July 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Tom,you really do speak utter utter tripe my friend,to judge support by the number of United shirts seen on the streets is laughable at best.Children will always support the flavour of the month and want to wear the colours,United fans are obsessed with numbers and 80% of these fans have never even been to watch United!Do you go to the game Tom or use that much used phrase by United fans that you cant get tickets-which actually is a myth to excuse yourselves of not actually being a real supporter.
Posted by: lee in Manchester | July 25, 2008 at 09:01 AM
Who cares where the united fans come from? This really is lazy silly season journalism - couldn't you find any dumb transfer rumours to report on?
I'm an Arsenal fan and I've never lived in London (I inherited it from my grandfather). So what?
I've met fans of EPL clubs all over the world (most strangely there's a Pompey supporters bar in Thailand), most of whom will never even see the country their team plays in. And yet they still care deeply about whether their team wins, schedule their weekends around 3am kickoffs, and scour the internet for news.
If that doesn't make them proper fans in your eyes, well you're a sad little person who needs to feel superior based on something as stupid as geography.
I do wonder how many of the Man U fans will show up to OT when the club goes bankrupt and goes down to the Championship.
Posted by: Diogenes | July 25, 2008 at 08:37 AM
I am a red devils manic from BURMA.(Myanmar)
For me, it is not the success and cups that make me a supporter.BUT 'the Spirit' of the United. Their refusal to accept anything other than a win, what you can see in the players like Scholes and Rooney, is the reason why I support United.
I think it is because of our culture, which regards such kind of spirit as a heroism. I dont think my love is nothing less than those supporters of the other clubs in England.
Although it is early morning in our local time for a live football match, there is only three games I missed to watch last season.
http://reddevillover.blogspot.com
Posted by: Thiha | July 25, 2008 at 06:03 AM
Hallo i'm from malaysia and want to inform you only Manchester United is the best football club in the world - they give us so much joy and excitement to many of us here thousands of miles away. We are UNITED in support for the MOST exciting Club of all... bring the EPL on... the Red Devils will beat every team!!
Posted by: Siva | July 25, 2008 at 05:20 AM
Haha China has a qtr of the world's population and with India combined I think its very hard for the local Manchester population to outgrow it amytime soon.
Anyway who cares as long as our hearts belongs to Manchester then that's all it matters. United that is, not Ciddy....
Posted by: Ben | July 25, 2008 at 01:47 AM
Times readers -are you from London? Why don't you read your local paper instead? If you don't live in London why are you reading this?
Posted by: Jus | July 24, 2008 at 11:20 PM
900,000 hits on the website.600,000 of these from outside the UK .Says it all really doesn't it?
Posted by: Chapman | July 24, 2008 at 10:03 PM
Kuala Lumpar obviously, aren't we all? Yawn. Lazy journalism to stroke a convenient myth.
Posted by: monstertruckinred | July 24, 2008 at 08:50 PM
I'm from El Salvador. I can honestly tell you how Salvadorians love the high class of the Red Devils. The players are some of the best in the world, but they are also great people. How often do you see a player from Manchester spitting at other players like Terry did to Tevez or Drogba Slapping Vidic? The Red Devils have much more class and Karma is brutal to trashy teams. Sad but drue...deal with it Chelsea and Arsenal.
Posted by: Carlos Candido | July 24, 2008 at 06:12 PM
This is all about little boys liking to win. When I was a kid in the 70s, half the kids in my class at primary school (in west London) said they supported Liverpool. This was because Liverpool were dominant in the late 70s. Lots of kids support ManU now because they have been the most successful team since the mid 1990s. I don't much care for it myself but its a fact of life. I'm a Gooner and, no, I wasn't born in Islington but I didn't want to support Wimbledon, QPR or Chelsea (who can blame me?) and I was taken to Highbury for my first game in 1973 when I was 5. I'm a Londoner born and bred and I support a London team but some geographical flexibility is required in the modern world.
Posted by: Alex | July 24, 2008 at 02:26 PM
Too many responses to read so it may have been said - Man U are absolutely massive in Cape Town. English football as a whole with great support for MU, Liverpool, Arsenal & Chelsea. The local knowledge is pretty impresive when discussing the Premier League, players, stats etc. Sadly mostly for the above clubs and not the legendary Toffeemen!
Posted by: Tim | July 24, 2008 at 02:19 PM
It's a bit of a daft poll. There's clearly going to be more fans from outside of Manchester due to the clubs success. A lot of opposition fans seem to bang on about how no United fans comes from Manchester and 'Manchester is blue' - which is a complete myth. Just walking through the streets you can see there's a larger percentage of United fan's to City fans. In places like Salford and Middleton you'll be lucky to find a city fan.
Posted by: Tom | July 24, 2008 at 01:54 PM
I was born 2 miles from Old Trafford football ground and grew up in Wythenshawe, Greater Manchester. My Dad and his Dad were Reds and they would relate tales of overnight train journeys to watch the Busby Babes play at Wembley in the 1950's.
My Dad actually took me to watch Man City before United. But once I'd been to Old Trafford there was never any debate.
Man United is basically Man City but with global, as well as local support. As a local, I welcome Reds from the world over.
Posted by: Andy | July 24, 2008 at 01:38 PM
"Man Utd fans - where are you from?"
Congrats - the headline says it all!
Posted by: Roger | July 24, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Every coffee shop, pub and Indian tea-shop throughout Malaysia (numbering tens of thousands) come alive on EPL live broadcast nights every weekend when the Red Devils come on - there's nothing else on this planet that can whip up frenzy and excitement like Manchester United can - the King of Clubs! Liverpool, Arsenal & the lot are still orbiting in space monopolized by underachievers. AirAsia rules the skies!!
Posted by: S Y Chan | July 24, 2008 at 12:48 PM
I am a Manchester City fan from Burnley and I am in Manchester everyday. I have to admit that there are many more United fans in Manchester than there are City fans. It used to always be a 50/50 split but these days there are more United fans (mainly due to us not winning anything for 32 years). When City turn the corner there will be a switch-around in the number of fans of each club.
Ralph
Posted by: Ralph | July 24, 2008 at 12:12 PM
Whereas in most European leagues a handful of clubs have always dominated the major honours this was not the case in England where many clubs had the chance of winning the title..this has of course now changed & so has the nature of fans support & to Satish in Asia Greater Manchester has a pop of 3 million, UK 60 million and other succesful UK exports - music, Harry Potter and military hardware (!)
Posted by: Graham | July 24, 2008 at 12:12 PM
I am a United supporter from Ireland. There are many of us. (As there are for Liverpool and various other English clubs.) I will accept that in the fiercely tribal world of English football, it does seem odd that so many fans of the club are not from Manchester. However, it could be said that we all have a very adequate outlet for geographically based football loyalties - international football. Is that not enough? I believe club football should provide a potential for borderless loyalty, just as it does for players. I support United because my Dad brought me up to, as his Dad did for him. But is it not a good enough reason to support them because you simply find their style of play or history inspiring and attractive? I am not an ignorant, plastic or fair-weather fan. I go to Old Trafford as often as I can afford (most recently to the brilliant Arsenal match with Hargreaves' free kick winner), I suffer agony when they lose and I savour their victories. I know about the history of the club, from Mangall to Manucho. I have invested a big part of my life in the club, I have devoted much love and respect to it and I believe that I deserve respect in return from any other United fan, regardless of where they're from.
Posted by: Donal | July 24, 2008 at 12:11 PM
I grew up 10 miles from Old Trafford and have supported United since the season they were in the old second division, when I was taken to some away games by someone who thought that going to Bolton, Oldham, Bury etc. would be safer for a young lad than going to big bad OT. They were very, very wrong about the safety bit - I was scared half to death, but hooked for life!
When I had a season ticket in the 70's I remember there was great approval whenever a PA message went out for fans who'd travelled from Norway or Belgium or wherever. I suspect that wouldn't be the case now, when the worldwide support that used to be a source of pride is used as a (completely rubbish, BTW) finger to point at United fans.
Now I live in St Albans because my job has brought me down here, and still hear the usual nonsense - usually from the myriad local Arsenal and Chelsea supporters who then look baffled when I ask them why they don't support more local teams like Watford. Hypocritical gobsh*tes to a man! Personally I don't care one way or another - I hope my kids end up supporting United despite being born in the south, so we can share that passion, but it's their choice to make, and I've always refused to dress them in silly baby strips and nonsense like that.
Oh and by the way, if you claim to support United and you ever call them Man U, then you need to take a long hard look at yourself.......
Posted by: Graham Corless | July 24, 2008 at 11:58 AM
Russell Wing why don't you use the passion you obviously have for football and support Peterborough? Why support a team so far away is it because they are successful?
Football would be far more entertaining if people like you put your money over your local turnstyle instead of giving it to clubs like MUFC.
Don't be a sheep Russell be unique.
Posted by: M19 Blue | July 24, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Everyone wants to be a United fan.
Posted by: mike | July 24, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Slow news day is it?
Here's one for you do all City fans come from Stockport?
Or do all Liverpool fans come from Wrexham?
But never spoil a good story with the truth
Posted by: Wenger's Bag of Harribo | July 24, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Gary Burns-It all depends on your definition of a "fan".I think what gets up supporters noses are all these armchair experts who smugly snipe at clubs and there fans who never actually physically "support" the team they profess to follow.Going to actually watch your team is my definition of being a supporter and not just going once a year when the travelling bandwagon happens to be playing near where you live.These armchair fans are getting very touchy about this subject and lets face it half of them still think Roy Keane is still in the side.
Posted by: lee in Manchester | July 24, 2008 at 10:04 AM
Who cares, i'm a united fan from peterborough, i have a season ticket at united, have been to watch every game for the last 3 seasons, how many fans from manchester can say they travel on a 250mile round trip to every game, answe none, if anything it makes us equally committed to the club. obviously not all the fans do this, that's why the atmosphere at OT is only good when the big games come around.
Posted by: russell wing | July 24, 2008 at 09:37 AM
Honestly, this question belongs in your sister paper the Sun.
I agree with our Spanish friend, Robert. This obsessing over geographical support is a very English thing; and like most nationalistic stances it has no real basis in common sense. Yes, football support is a form of tribalism but all good tribes move around and garner support from across their borders.
Equally nonsensical is the quasi-elitism of the smaller club's fans. Those who fervently believe that because you've grown up supporting Manchester United or Arsenal and not Bury or Leyton Orient; you're somehow less important as a true fan.
If fans of any club, wherever they hail from, are to be judged at all it should be for their passion and knowledge of the game and nothing else.
Posted by: Gary Burns | July 24, 2008 at 08:39 AM
I'm a massive Man Utd fan (and I'm very passionate to, ho ho ho) and I, shock horror, wasn't born in Manchester, though I did spend a couple of years living there. I inherited my support from my mum and granddad who are both from the area - but believe it or not, in this day and age people actually move around! Yes, fancy that - people don't always stay living in the same city generation after generation, some follow their jobs around the country, or even the world.
Sure I have met Man Utd fans from outside Manchester who were somewhat clueless about the club, then again I've met Salford-born United fans who were just as clueless. And frankly, what does it matter if they can't name the United all-time 11 with players outside of the 90s/2000s? Supporting a team is an individual thing, and done for fun - it doesn't make you a bad person if you aren't up to date with the team, it just makes you a less knowledgeable supporter.
Some people still cling to the preposterous adage that football is more important than life and death. Those of us outside our teens, however, and with rewarding lives, have discovered that it is a thoroughly enjoyable pass-time, and good opportunity to get caught up in the emotions of the event and sing our throat sore - but it really is just a game.
As a side note, there are plenty of Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea, Newcastle, Tottenham etc. fans who a) live away from the team and b) don't know much about football. It is more emphasised with Man Utd because they have so many fans, scattered across the globe. And some of those will make a darned sight more effort to see their team than some of those that chunter on about them not being 'real' fans.
Posted by: Stuart | July 24, 2008 at 08:32 AM
Its funny I have always felt like a foreign fan coming from Oldham which is greater Manchester 6 miles from the city centre. Theres a guy from Hale saying hes never seen a red shirt there, thats hardley surprising as the public of Hale (which is in Cheshire anyway) wouldn't be seen dead in anything less than Armarni he also goes on to mention Stockport not stricly Manchester either but hey Old Trafford is in Trafford which isn't strictly Manchester anymore either so what is it Greater Manchester or Manchester, just to note as well my brother and all his friends are city fans.
Posted by: Tom Floyd | July 24, 2008 at 08:30 AM
I am a Manchester United supporter from the United States, it has nothing to do with them being the biggest of the richest, it was the way I was raised. My father instilled two things in terms of Football into me, 1. That is it better than any other sport and should be called Football (My dad isn't from the US) and B. That Manchester United would be the only team tolerated in his house. Really if you want to detect false fans look for the ones that call the club"man u" they usually are the glory hunters with very little historical knowledge of the club.
Posted by: Daniel | July 24, 2008 at 08:13 AM
United should have more consideration for their real fans, and build a stadium near where their fans live, save them travelling. Like London, and build a little sheep theme park next to it where they can all graze between matches. BAAGH
Posted by: PaulMacca | July 24, 2008 at 05:57 AM
Man Utd have lots of so called supporters around the world. In truth they don't watch the games often or have any knowledge or passion for the game.
To sum this up on the day of the champion's league final before the game I met a guy wearing a man u top.
I asked him if he was looking forward to the game, his face was blank, he confessed he didn't know they were playing...and infact had no clue whats the champions league was. He was proud however that he had 5 man u tops. I'm in Canada, you meet man u supporter's all the time here like this, if you can call them that. It's nice to meet supporter's of other clubs, they do actually know what's going on with their teams.
Posted by: Paul | July 24, 2008 at 04:38 AM
Yeh, Oliver, as someone points out, if you're going to pretend the question can give a meaningful answer, and not manipulate a truth about United's gigantic nationwide and worldwide support to further a myth about another truth - United's much superior support over City's in Manchester itself (and by the way, bigger than any comparison attempted for any other English club within its own city/town boundaries) - at least give it a smidgin of credibility and worth, by asking only folk actually from or who have lived a decent length of time in the City of Manchester, who they support.
You have written proof already here from several posters in this "poll", who categorically quote what really counts; that the myth about Manchester-based support for United being anything less than much greater than any other club can similarly claim, including City, is exactly that - a myth. Something seized on by mostly football bigots and know-nothings.
Or doesn't this long-standing truth matter?
Posted by: Peter... | July 24, 2008 at 04:29 AM
I love English football but have never understood this stupid thing about having to be from one place to support a given team. Here in Spain, our three biggest clubs (Real, Barcelona and Valencia) have supporters all around the country and no one makes a fuss about where they come from. In fact, a poll from a few years back showed that Real was the first or second most supported club in every single Spanish region except for the Basque Country, where it was third behind Bilbao and Real Sociedad. But no Atletico fan sings "do you come from Madrid?" in matches against Real, perhaps because they are actually a successful club unlike City.
Posted by: Robert Monteagudo | July 24, 2008 at 04:24 AM
As a southerner it is annoyin to see so many united (and liverpool) fans around the way (esp wen i have family in the north and there are very few fans of london based teams up there), but as a chelsea fan it is also annoyin to see so many chelsea fans appear after we win something...this is just what happens after success!!
Posted by: Alex | July 24, 2008 at 02:35 AM
Hi! I live in France and to be more accurate in Bordeaux. I support Man utd since Cantona played in this Team!
Even if most people support local teams like Girondins de Bordeaux. There are some French who are united's fans.
Nice poll!
Posted by: Lud0 | July 24, 2008 at 01:48 AM
To the Asian United fan who wrote
>>how does a large percentage of foreign fans prove that there are few English fans? It only proves that UK = 3 million, USA = 300 million etc.
I say:
Good Lord, man. The UK population is over 60 million. It's one thing to be a foreign fan of a big English club (sure, I can understand that), but it's another to not know a thing about the country they play in, never mind the city. Fans have certain minimum responsibilities, I think.
It's all a very tricky business, I'll grant. Luckily, earning 'the right' to support a globally popular mega-brand has never been an issue for me, as I'm a Motherwell fan.
Posted by: Reggie Rhinestone | July 23, 2008 at 10:30 PM
I am a Man U fan since the age of 6, and I come from Tanzania, where there are thousands of fans spread across the county. The club has a big following comprising of staunch Man U fans. Indeed, the club is big, bigger than the players!
Posted by: Nabeel | July 23, 2008 at 09:55 PM
at the end of the day, if you support manu, or liverpool or chelsea or whoever and your not from manchester west london or merseyside, then your a glory hunter. plain and simple.
i know people who during our time at junior and secondary school, supported, tottenham, then middlesbrough, then manu and then chelsea.
us people who support little clubs like grimsby, might not get glory every year, but when we win something, like when we won at wembley twice in a month in 1998 it was better than anything manu or liverpool could ever imagine, because it was our miracle.
Posted by: will | July 23, 2008 at 07:05 PM
I would say that the Japanese Tokyo Giants (baseball) are like Man U, the Yankees and Juve as the team you support if you "have" to have a favorite team...2/3 of the country supports them...
In the NFL there are a few teams that fit this mold-the Dallas Cowboys and Green Bay Packers are also national teams; same with the Pittsburgh Steelers-all have fans all over the USA, like the Yankees...
Posted by: frank | July 23, 2008 at 05:56 PM
The majority of clubs in the Premiership will have more supporters ,in total , outside the environs of the club .
The bigger the club the bigger the city , the more support they will garner worldwide . It is not something that is is unusual to Old Trafford .
Just a little provocation from the press during the close season to get you lot to post some views .
Not surprisingly it has worked and unsurprisingly became tribal with the first few contributors.
Get a life and go on holiday , everybody else has .
Posted by: Nick Dixon | July 23, 2008 at 05:11 PM
The last time I heard, just under 90% of all season tickets holders came from within a fifteen mile radius.
Oh and I am from Manchester.
Posted by: JB | July 23, 2008 at 05:06 PM
I've lived out here in Bulgaria for 3 years or so now but still follow my beloved reds keenly. That's the 'reds' of Liverpool for all you united 'fans' out there. Their support is frankly a joke, everyone knows Manchester is blue and Liverpool is red! Looking forward to watching the new season from afar as the mighty scouse walk the league!
Posted by: Mickey. Shields | July 23, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Some wally on here judges support by the number of football shirts worn in the Arndale Centre-funny that non could be seen the day after MCFC beat you twice this season!Its closer than you think!
Posted by: lee in Manchester | July 23, 2008 at 04:14 PM
What have MCFC got to do with this survey?The facts are the number of fans who support both teams is more even than people think-and thats the truth of the matter.
Posted by: lee in Manchester | July 23, 2008 at 04:02 PM
I live in Altrincham..about 8 miles from Old Trafford. I know that there are significantly more United fans in Manchester than supporters of any other team. In the 70's, when i was a child there were a number of children in my school who supported Liverpool because they were the dominant team of that decade and children like to be associated with a winning team. However there were 4 times as many United fans and a smattering of City fans.
I've been to anfield on numerous occasions and there's coaches full of their fans from all corners of the UK and even some from abroad. So why is it that Man United get vilified for supposedly getting their fans from anywhere but manchester? it's simply untrue.
Posted by: chris | July 23, 2008 at 04:02 PM
I live in the USA. It's irritating how many United fans live here. They don't even consider other sides. It's like asking anyone in England who's the best baseball team on the planet--they'd say the Yankees of course. But they're not. They're just another marketing scheme with a big wallet. I hope the Gunners, CFC and the Reds all put these guys down because their "global" appeal is more akin to bandwagon jumping than real support.
Posted by: Shannon | July 23, 2008 at 03:56 PM
Of course United fans don't live in Manchester, Trafford isn't in Manchester.
I'm from South Shields, support United cos all the family is from Salford and hence brought up as one.
Before the scousers start I was at Anfield for the FA Cup tie (Smiths broken leg) and all I heard was Irish accents.
Posted by: United Till I Die | July 23, 2008 at 03:03 PM
Yet again why are Manchester City being included in this discussion?
The point of this stupid question is to ascertain if more of The Rags support comes from outside Manchester. The answer is of course Yes. They are a world brand so its obvious the majority of their support will come from outside Manchester...
Posted by: M19 Blue | July 23, 2008 at 03:01 PM
Manchester Eevning News conducted a poll a few years ago; Manchester was split 52% United / 26% City. University of Leceister Sir Norman Chester Institute conducted a poll; 62% United / 22% City. Manchester Metropolitan University conducted a poll; more United Season Ticket holders in Manchester than City. Survey after survey, poll after poll, live in Manchester and experience it yourself. But do you believe us? No. Believe The Bitter Liars.
Posted by: Dave | July 23, 2008 at 02:29 PM
With anybody permitted to vote, not doubt every fan of another team has voted "No".
Also, Man Utd are a global club, the ratio of population in Manchester to the rest of the world is huge, so 29%? i'm surprised it's that high!
Manchester IS red.
and what is that USA flag about on the poll? bias media as usual. pathetic.
Posted by: MANC | July 23, 2008 at 02:22 PM
Have I got it wrong? There's an awful lot of comments for something "that's pontless". Man U IS news, like it or lump it.
Posted by: Ian Manchester Red | July 23, 2008 at 02:15 PM
some points:
1. what gives liverpool fans the right to comment? after all they all live within a 5 mile radius of anfield dont they?
2. this poll is stupid. obviously you are going to get a small percentage who are from manchester, given the relatively small population of the place, against our worldwide fanbase.
in light of this, it may shed more light on the debate ask if you are from manchester (population 1/2 mil)or greater manchester(pop 2.5mil), do you support united?
Posted by: MUFC,stockport | July 23, 2008 at 02:00 PM
I never ever trust or listen to a "Man utd Fan" unless he/she ahs a Mancunian accent. They are all glory hunters. How come all these people from london´etc ahven´t chosen Crewe / Rochdale as their team to tag onto...........i suggest theres no glory in that. They make me sick
Posted by: vic | July 23, 2008 at 01:42 PM
Salford - which ain't Manchester
Posted by: Salford Red | July 23, 2008 at 01:37 PM
"The Man Utd supporters club "
ha ha no it wasn't!
Posted by: Ringo | July 23, 2008 at 01:28 PM
Born in manchester =D
Posted by: vik | July 23, 2008 at 01:27 PM
"I work in Manchester city centre next door to what was Krolls offices. Kroll were investigating Alex Ferguson in the race horse saga. The Man Utd supporters club staged a protest oustside Kroll's offices. 4 people turned, 2 of which were dressed as a Pantomime Horse, 1 was a photographer."
They call you lot liars for a very good reason. There were 40 people there at 4.30 on a work day.
nearly as many as attended City vs Mansfield at Maine Road in 2001.
Posted by: Ringo | July 23, 2008 at 01:26 PM
As a neutral, who has lived in Manchester for over 40 years, I can honestly say that United fans outnumber City fans in the city by at least 4 to 1.
You only have to take a walk around Picadilly or have a look on the school playing fields to see this.
This myth about United fans not coming from Manchester, or 'if it wasn't for Munich, United wouldn't be getting the attendances that they are getting now' is just that. A myth. Take a look at the average attendance figures in the year prior to the Munich air disaster and see who had the highest average.
Yes, you guessed it. It was Manchester United.
Edward from Manchester.
Posted by: Edward Jones | July 23, 2008 at 01:19 PM
I work in Manchester city centre next door to what was Krolls offices. Kroll were investigating Alex Ferguson in the race horse saga. The Man Utd supporters club staged a protest oustside Kroll's offices. 4 people turned, 2 of which were dressed as a Pantomime Horse, 1 was a photographer. Point Made
Posted by: michael bradbury | July 23, 2008 at 01:15 PM
"Oh and remember 6 points.."
Yeah remember them far more than winning the League and the CL
Posted by: Ringo | July 23, 2008 at 01:13 PM
It's true United fans don't come from manchester, ive live in Hale for 12 years and rarely see a united fan. It's a sea of blue round our way.Stockport is also blue sometimes the traffic jams on the way to the match stretch all the way to Eastlands, this never happens when united are at home
Posted by: billy li ar | July 23, 2008 at 01:03 PM
In the early seventies when I started going to Old Trafford, United had just been relegated to the then second division.
We had coaches from all over the country then, and the support was revered as the best and biggest set of fans in the country. Even while Liverpool dominated Europe United had more fans and bigger gates. My, how that riled 'em.
From there the success of United has indeed developed the fan base even bigger, but has anyone seen a team or club do well only to see attendences plummet?
Finally, just about every club has a national fanbase, including City. It's just that United have more, that's all.
Oh, and me? Cheshire. 17 miles as the crow flies. I do hope that's ok with you.
Posted by: Mr DG | July 23, 2008 at 12:59 PM
This poll is utter vomit.
Slow transfer window is it???
I know! Let's wheel out another tired, over used non-story.
United are a club known around the world. Therefore, they have supporters from around the world. You'd think you'd need a degree to figure that out the way the media bang on about it. It's boring now, give it up.
Funnily enough, contrary to popular belief, United have a stronger supporter base in Manchester than City.
But hey, why let the truth get in the way of a popular media myth?
Posted by: Duckrobell | July 23, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Anti-United tripe.
United are one of, if not, the biggest football clubs on the planet. Obviously, local fans from constitute a tiny, tiny proportion of those who claim to be United supporters, but so what? The same is true of all the top European teams. Not least Liverpool and Arsenal, actually.
Posted by: Fillipe Vasquez | July 23, 2008 at 12:55 PM
Barrowford is where I live, not where I'm from. Burnley were a division above United the season I started watching them, as were lickle ciddy.
In the 70's United were applauded for having fans from all over the UK. But somewhere along the line this has been turned on its head and used a stick to beat us with.
3 points every season for you if we win the 2 trophies. I know which I'd prefer.
Posted by: Barrowfordred | July 23, 2008 at 12:54 PM
Man U is my favourite team, I've supported them since the great Champions league final of 1999. We are the best
Man U 4 EVA!!!!!! Lolz
Posted by: BIG MAN U FAN | July 23, 2008 at 12:49 PM
I've been a born and bred Liverpool from the age of 3,I used to live on Merseyside but now live abroad, albeit temporarily. We Liverpool fans really know the score when it comes to supporting our club, just look at the magic of Istanbul back in 2005, without loyal passionate lads like me our club would never have won that night and would never have gained the reputation of the greatest fans in the world! United fans are all moaners and they all live in Surrey. Liverpool and City show how you should support your local team through thick and thin and remain loyal to the moral codes of true supporters. Long live the scouse!
Posted by: M. Shields | July 23, 2008 at 12:42 PM
How have City been dragged into this debate? The question is "Manchester United fans do you come from Manchester?"
This is not about who has the largest support in Manchester. But I reckon The Rags must be getting worried about us, as a couple of seasons ago they wouldn't have metioned us in relation to this question.
Most sensible comments note that if you come from London why support a team from the North West?
"Barrowfordred" Do you not think Burnley or Blackburn would like your support? Then again you'd continue to be a sheep why risk not supporting a winning team....Baa Baa Baa. Oh and remember 6 points..
Before you start Burnage, Manchester born and bred.....
Posted by: M19 Blue | July 23, 2008 at 12:28 PM
I believe you should always support your local team. I lived down hill from the Crystal Palace TV mast for 37 years. But many people have a favourite top team as well - mine's Liverpool. What's yours?
Posted by: John Orford | July 23, 2008 at 12:22 PM
United's high profile has contributed massively to the growth of the EPL as the world's most popular football league, and indeed "sports franchise" generally. All Premiership clubs owe a debt to ManU for this, whether they wish to acknowledge it or not.
And no, I'm not a ManU supporter - but I don't begrudge them their success, or their army of foreign fans. EPL ftw!
Posted by: Sabremesh | July 23, 2008 at 12:20 PM
I've been a liverpool fan since 1978, and i live in cardiff. United don't have any local fans they should just support there local team. Not to mention our fantastic support who only live 10 yards away from anfield. All of us own a scarf from the clubshop so we do go to the games and every night we go to bed humming Y.N.W.A with our scraf raised aloft with our Stevie g Shirt. That's a proper fan.
Posted by: Gareth Edwards | July 23, 2008 at 12:19 PM
I think internet polls like this are important. Please keep me updated.
Posted by: Beef | July 23, 2008 at 12:18 PM
Oh dear - yet another worhless poll. When will the old canard about everyone in Manchester supporting lickle ciddy be exposed?
Never, as long as retards believe this tripe wheeled out on a constant basis.
Posted by: Barrowfordred | July 23, 2008 at 12:10 PM
"Before you all reply stating I support MUFC because my Dad did....He sleeps with your Mum do you do that as well...."
Thats quite funny for a bertie...
192 for Bertie Magoo - Expect Fire works in Stockport up until August 19th as City are above United on Alphabetical order
Posted by: Ringo | July 23, 2008 at 12:03 PM
What a ridiculous poll, this will proove one way or another!!!!
By the way I don't come from Manchester, I come from Salford and Old Trafford is my local team (I can see it from my house). Glad to see you jumping on the united-bashing bandwagon though!!!
Posted by: ericisgod7 | July 23, 2008 at 11:59 AM
Most United fans come from outside of Manchester. I've lived in Stockport for 40 years and have never seen a Mancunian Manchester United supporter.
Bert, Hazel Grove.
Posted by: Bert Magoo | July 23, 2008 at 11:58 AM
It seems this is only a problem for Englishmen.
In Portugal there is no such similar problem (and in no doubt many other countires too). There everyone supports Benfica - up and down the country. They only support their local team as a "second favourite".
In fact, according to the Guinness Book of records, Benfica have the most registered members world-wide of any football club.
Posted by: Lirpa Olof | July 23, 2008 at 11:57 AM
Yorkshire: I was 14 when I first when to see them. None of my friends would go, so I travelled with Burnley supporters to a cup match at Old Trafford in 1963. United won. The garbage about Utd having no fans in Manchester is another pathetic Man City story (like Ronaldhino playing for them); Utd had 50,000+ home crowds in the 60s, long before the global brand caught on.
Posted by: Tony G | July 23, 2008 at 11:51 AM
Utd have followers, not fans.
The real football supporters in Manchester support City. Anyone knows that. Liverpool have real fans, Arsenal too.
Like Juve, and the Yankees in basesball, anyone with an interest, but not a passion, "supports' Utd. They like the game, and need a team.
That's why real fans hate Utd/Yankees/Juve...
Posted by: D.Dent | July 23, 2008 at 11:49 AM
It is 1977 and I am 7 years old. I am from Southend and most of the kids at school support Liverpool, including my older brother. As an act of part randomness and part sibling rivalry I decide to support the team that Liverpool are playing in the FA Cup Final that season, Manchester United. United win and I am hooked for life.
As I said I was a mere 7 years old. I have no concept of where Manchester is and because my father did not follow football I had never been to Roots Hall to see my local club. In days of limited football on TV, I did however, from time to time, get to see Man Utd.
I love watching football live and part of me (now a Londoner) wishes that I had at random decided to support a London club (but am at least thankful that Leeds did not win their '77 semi-final as I might have been watching 3rd division football - I could have got that from Southend). However, once you start supporting a team you cannot just change your loyalties overnight. Thsi is the true acid test as to whether you are a true fan.
So what does this tell you? Quite simply that support for a football club is a random act, normally made by young children with next to no sense of geography. Everyone has their own reasons and geography can be one of those factors where it has a strong cultural influence on impressionable children. There are certainly glory seekers who support United but the same applies to all clubs - certainly Liverpool were a case in point in my youth.
Posted by: Deanamo | July 23, 2008 at 11:49 AM
United are a globally renowned club and there will always be fans from around the world in the premiership age. Why is this a surprise?
For those dealing in half truths and myths about Manchester football support, try reading some real evidence on this.
http://www.e-space.mmu.ac.uk/e-space/bitstream/2173/12506/1/seasonticketreport%20-%20brown1.pdf
Posted by: David Ward | July 23, 2008 at 11:10 AM
In Mauritius, we've been watching EPL for many, many years. Everyone (90%) supports either Man Utd or Liverpool, and you usually get firecrackers after the game (from Man U fans when they win, from LFC fans likewise).
I would say LFC has just as many fans in many parts of the world than Man Utd. It's just they never capitalised on it, so Man Utd have grown stronger than them in the last 2 decades in terms of support.
Posted by: Bertrand | July 23, 2008 at 10:39 AM
The question you have to ask is which club would not swap places with Manchester United today? How many would rather be a small club with local support outnumbering global fans? Apparently there's some moral high-ground in supporting your local club - a relic of the pre-television and pre-telecoms world. Would you laugh at Amir Khan because he has more fans outside of Bolton?
Posted by: Lal Shaitan | July 23, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Man United, as part of their long term business strategy, have pioneered the art of globalising a football club. It is great for the club coffers but what nobody seems to recognise is that it destroys any opportunity for the likes of Korea, Japan, Africa etc. of producing a huge club of their own - a truly great club to represent their own people - as the hearts and souls of the local population have been won over by the MU money/myth making machine.
Surely this is incredibly sad, and on some real level, incredibly wrong?
Posted by: Mick | July 23, 2008 at 09:58 AM
Man u is supported all over the world. Dont be haters. Man u is the biggest club in the world whether someone likes it or not.
Posted by: Noel Mwawa | July 23, 2008 at 09:23 AM
I live in London and have supported Man U since 1968. My Dad hates football so we never went. I went to school outside Manchester where I got grief from Citeh fans and Salford reds alike, so it comes with the territory. Funny thing is, over the last five years or so, I know more London based Liverpool fans than United fans. All of these of course were glory hunters in the 1980s....when most of them were in their teens/twenties! And in London, the number of Arsenal fans from the home counties or Spurs/Chelsea fans from South East London keeps growing....What's the difference
Posted by: jonathan anthony | July 23, 2008 at 09:20 AM
I'm a diehard Man U fan, born and bred in Southend and I watch them every time they're on TV.
I've been to Old Trafford twice in my life and thoroughly enjoyed my trip to the 'Theatre of Dreams'.
I also buy the new kit every season; it's important for me that I show my solid support for the club.
Posted by: Stuart Webb | July 23, 2008 at 09:17 AM
God is united so in most television stations in the world are bradicasting MAN U.so every child in the street of Swaziland and Mongolia knows about Man U and they can even recognise Paul Scholes and Ryan Giggs.
Posted by: Muzi,Dlamini | July 23, 2008 at 09:05 AM
I understand why people who come from outside England support The Rags, they have a chance of winning every competition they enter. What I don't understand is those in England who don't live anywhere near Manchester, who should be putting money over the turnstyles of their local club support a team from Trafford?
Lower league football wouldn't be in the financial trouble it is now if the glory hunting sheep didn't support The Rags!
Before you all reply stating I support MUFC because my Dad did....He sleeps with your Mum do you do that as well....
Posted by: M19 Blue | July 23, 2008 at 08:37 AM
United fans are always going to suffer from people saying they don't come from Manchester simply because 90% of their fans DON'T! When you consider Uniteds fan base though, you realise that this leave lots of United fans who come from Manchester!
But what I want to say to you United fans in Ireland, the US and elsewhere is that somewhere near you is a football team that needs your support. I support Wigan but I watch non-league when Wigan are away, I even have non-league shirts now! Teams like United don't need your money & support, its the other 90 odd percent of teams that need your money & support. I'm not saying you should suddenly change who you support, but maybe for one season rather than buying the latest strip spend the money watching local sides and buying a local shirt!
Posted by: Gaz | July 23, 2008 at 07:53 AM
When a team has an estimated global support of 5 million, and a poll is carried out on a site read all over the world, statistically you would expect that the majority of those voting would be frm outside Manchester - even if everyone in Manchester voted yes then they would be outnumbered approx 5 to 1 by non-Manc's in such a pole.
Surely a more interesting and accurate poll would be one of Manc's asking which team they support to see which Manchester team has most support from within the city??
Posted by: Kai | July 23, 2008 at 07:45 AM
What is this childish obssesion about where Manchester United fans come from all about ? I come from Manchester (there you go you've found one) and everyone i know and associate with either supports or favours United. Carry this infantile poll out on Liverpool then you'll really see some glory hunters come to the fore !
Posted by: Gary Thompson | July 23, 2008 at 07:00 AM
What a pointless poll. How about a poll "If you are from Manchester do you support United or City"
Is tomorrows poll going to ask Liverpool and Chelsea the same question?
Journalism at its worst - keep stoking the myth. Ive had to put up with it for years
Posted by: Ian Morgan, Moston,Manchester born n bRED | July 23, 2008 at 06:57 AM
Well i am from India, and here you would find supporters of not only man utd but liverpool, arsenal,chelsea,totenham and others because of the weekend dose of English priemer league thanks to espn star sports
Posted by: sarun | July 23, 2008 at 06:24 AM
Im Australian and love united. All my mates go for a major team for a variety of reasons and none of us support the same team. Between us, the big four are supported, plus west ham and one friend is still a die hard leeds fan. The BPL is global, and lets face it without international fan bases the league would be nowhere near the power house it is today.
Posted by: Sam | July 23, 2008 at 05:30 AM
This only proves that appeal of United can come purely from watching them play, not because you are born in Manchester or London. I live in Asia and I can "safely" support United or Arsenal or Barcelona or Madrid, but I CHOOSE United (unlike you English who are forced into watching likes of Bolton because you were born there!) Secondly how does a large percentage of foreign fans prove that there are few English fans? It only proves that UK = 3 million, USA = 300 million etc.
Third isn't global appeal something to be proud of? I can't name anything other than the Premier League that the UK exports and neither can you!
Finally all you expats who claim United are the flavor of the month in Asia etc. should really venture out more into the country instead of being holed up in the same touristy bar all the time. I really think I know my own country more than you do.
Posted by: Satish | July 23, 2008 at 04:10 AM
Born in eccles followed utd since I could talk went to every game home and away in the 70s loved docherty as did all the lads in the area no city fans only utd .Now live in New Zealand still go to games when on holiday the city idea is a myth
Posted by: eddie pasco | July 23, 2008 at 03:31 AM
Funny how Man U fans get all sensitive when you ask them where they're from. Go and support your local team you bandwagon jumping glory hunters!
Posted by: Michael Flaherty | July 23, 2008 at 03:06 AM
@why dont you do this pointless survey for liverpool?
That's obvious isn't it? No one outside of Liverpool would even consider supporting them.
Don't know why Utd fans get so upset about this, must be some sort of inferiority complex, like the one they have over Liverpool.
But mickey taking aside, don't you think this is actually a complement to your side? The fact so many fans from other parts of the world like your club could be seen as a testament to everything from your style of play to your status and aspirations as one of the best in the world.
So most Utd fans are yuppies and Asians? If they're all as pretty as the girl in the picture I wouldn't be complaining myself..
Posted by: Andy | July 23, 2008 at 01:52 AM
The only surveys on this issue i have seen was by the manchester evening news.50 percent united against 40 percent city in manchester.
United also have one of the hightest percentage of season ticket holders who live within 25 miles of the ground.
But why let the facts spoil a good story.
Posted by: bernard kelly | July 23, 2008 at 01:20 AM
Im am actually from the Manchester area, although have lived in Bath for the past 33 years.In Bath there are more Man Utd fans than any other premiership club by far. I travel to the far east quite a lot and find the same to be true, in China, Thailand, Malaysia too. I am proud of this fact , and it just confirms my long held believe that Man Utd are the most famous, entertaining, and loved club in the world. Long may it remain so. I welcome fans from all parts of the globe, the more the merrier.
Posted by: KeithButterworth | July 23, 2008 at 01:02 AM
I think all these die hard foreign fans want to take a look in the mirror. All this, "I know what it means to be a Man utd fan. I understand the history and passion". Rubbish.
Posted by: rich | July 23, 2008 at 12:40 AM
A recent poll taken in Singapore shows the best supported club in the country is Liverpool.
Posted by: Kevin | July 23, 2008 at 12:31 AM
I'm from oxford, I support oxford united because they are my local team... However... I'm a Manchester United fan and supporter 1st. This is not because they are the most renowned or because I love the glory, but rather that I was raised to support them, as are the majority of the united fans I know. Jealousy from supporters of other clube is a constant plague, because Manchester United is the greatest football team in the world, and in our fine nation, one major draw back we have... we hate a winner.
Posted by: jonathan woods | July 22, 2008 at 11:53 PM
I was born and raised in Cheadle, but moved out to NZ a few years ago. This has got to be one of the worst places to be a football fan, and i loathe the fact that everyone who claims to be into 'soccer' is either a Chelsea or Man U fan, and couldn't name a starting 11 for either.
Posted by: Thom James | July 22, 2008 at 11:27 PM
I live in Ireland but visit Manchester regularly to attend matches. Hand on heart you are likely to see at least ten times more replica united shirts on the streets of Dublin rather than Manchster. Their following here is simply phenominal.
Posted by: Daryl | July 22, 2008 at 11:25 PM
this is beacuse of the english language link no moreee.
because english language and all the countries that have english as a mother tongue, they support english footballl no moree
Posted by: jarne | July 22, 2008 at 11:14 PM
"glory hunters" Robert Balmain? Oh, you mean the 25 years when we didn't win anything?
Posted by: John Derbyshire | July 22, 2008 at 11:05 PM
When Canada got a second 24hr. Sports channel, live football came to Toronto. At 10am Sat. morns, the only real competition was sleep.
When my honey wandered in to the TV room and saw me, she paused and declared; YOU HAVE TO GIVE SOMETHING UP.
I laughed without fearing the threat,but 11 years later I have voluntarily given short shrift to all other sport. I just won an argument to include 200lbs. of Four Four Two in our move.
The thing is, football never sleeps. They take a month off to stage Wimbledon and The Open, and then it starts all over again.
Games last an hour and 48 minutes give or take a second, and critically...NO COMMERCIALS!
I became a Red Devil by default and withstand much name calling which I deflect successfully by citing my 30 year loyalty to the Toronto Maple Leafs...I have earned a good team!
The reason was more basic and understandable. United were chosen for telecast with much greater frequency so these were the players I got to know first. As well, and I think this was Alex's idea [He would only permit team celebrations for goals scored.] so the squad genuinely seemed to care for each other.
These telecasts started in the fall of 1998 and the season that unfolded was a gift from the gods.
I actually felt guilty as lifelong fans who passed on in the four months preceding the Noucamp were denied what this rookie got.
For my penance, when I accurately cite the year of my team selection
"REAL FOOTBALL FANS' give me stick,
[what ever the hell 'stick' is.]
Regardless, witnessing the perilous margins and sheer delight in the capture of each prong of the treble sealed the deal. I was and am a Red Devil for life, snickering [which I can hear right now] notwithstanding.
Posted by: william barlow | July 22, 2008 at 10:08 PM
Robert Balmain: "for glory hunters who should be suppoting their local team not one 5,000 miles away."
Who says we can't do both? And who says we're all glory hunters? I have friends and family who support teams as varied as Luton, Arsenal and even your beloved Everton.
I think that english supporters have to realise that one of the reasons why the EPL is arguably the strongest in the world is because of the world wide interrest and support of the teams in it.
Posted by: Egill, Kopavogur, Iceland | July 22, 2008 at 09:38 PM
I'm not from Manchester. I'm from Salford!
Posted by: Oz | July 22, 2008 at 09:18 PM
Most people who "support" Man United abroad are those who asked: "What's that team that always wins the league? Yeah, I'll support them." These fans know nothing of "history" and "passion", they just display the club's brand as if it were an Abercrombie & Fitch shirt or something. Most are pretty ignorant about football. I even met one "fan" who lived in Manchester for a year, never went to a game, and couldn't name any Manchester United player other than Beckham. Having said all that, there are exceptions to this (pretty much anyone visiting this site wouldn't fall into this category).
Posted by: Daniel | July 22, 2008 at 09:16 PM
why dont you do this pointless survey for liverpool ? typical anti united rubish . get one of your reporters up to manchester and check out the shirts you see walking round united must outnumber city 5 to 1
Posted by: roni07 | July 22, 2008 at 08:55 PM
Montreal, Canada is full of die hard
RED DEVILS!
UNITED!
Posted by: Jerome Miller | July 22, 2008 at 08:13 PM
Yes, I'm american by birth and do live in the states, but my family has its roots in Salford. Its tradition to support united, and so i do.
Posted by: apears | July 22, 2008 at 07:23 PM
When you come to the U.S. you will clearly see that there are more Man U fans than any other club in the world. Its not just because of the american owners but the fans here atually understand the history and the passion of being a United fan.
Posted by: US MAN UNITED | July 22, 2008 at 05:52 PM
To Alex (Wilmington, NC. try beuibng the only Engish guy in a bar in Asia that wants to watch Everton and everyone else wants to watch MUFC or Chelsea (or the other favour of the month) for glory hunters who should be suppoting their local team not one 5,000 miles away.
Posted by: Robert Balmain | July 22, 2008 at 05:34 PM
Completely pointless, much better to go to the Arndale or Trafford Centre and count the City and United shirts in either location. From my observations United come out top by far.
Posted by: Alex | July 22, 2008 at 04:25 PM
Being from the States, especially Wilmington, NC, and a Manchester United fan is tough. Believe me, most people who even acknowledge that they love football here automatically get harrassed as if they were fans of figure skating. We even get stick for referring to it as football and not soccer. It's like we're traitors.
Then we run into those purists who say that only people from the city itself are real fans. Their the only ones who understand the team's history and no one else can grasp it. I can understand that sentiment, but try and understand what it's like for us when we're the only guy in the bar who wants to see Man United v. Blackburn or any other team not in the big four while every other guy there wants to watch the Redskins v. Cowboys.
We pay our due in other ways.
Posted by: Keith | July 22, 2008 at 04:25 PM
Do the same Poll for Liverpool or Chelsea and you would have similar results, like it or not all the major teams in the premiership are Global Brands and will inveitably have more fans that dont live in Manchester than do.
However working in Salford everyday i can testify that nearly everyone who works and lives there supports Man Utd, it so happens the rest of the world are quite fond of them as well.
Posted by: Matt Holden | July 22, 2008 at 03:46 PM
If our global fanbase runs into well over in the millions, possibly hundred of millions, and the population of manchester itself is less than a million...what are the chances then of a high majority of fans being from manchester itself? This poll is pointless, because we know the answer already. Football is a global game, accept it. No one questions liverpool and arsenals fanbase and where the majority of them come from, I bet you that you would get similar results. Same applies for barca, real, AC and juve
Posted by: united for life | July 22, 2008 at 03:31 PM